Christ Consciousness for the Christian

by Joshua Tilghman on March 2, 2013

Christ consciousnessWhat exactly is Christ consciousness? Although it may not be so easy to attain, it can and should be seen as something practical. Many websites make it seem so spiritual that it becomes no earthly good, and therefore, Christians wash their hands of it. At the very least they look into it for the sake of curiosity, but once they dig in, it seems too otherworldly to give it a second thought. The New Age movement has been guilty of this. While a lot of New Age material contains some powerful truths, it can be confusing to the novice who is questioning the roots of orthodox Christianity in hopes for a greater understanding of God.

And then there’s that other thought process: Some Christians tend to get defensive and argue that the concept of Christ consciousness just isn’t Biblical. But the truth is it’s at the very core of the Biblical message. A lot of New Age terms—like Christ consciousness—seem so foreign to the traditional Christian mindset that it sends them into a state of agitation. Semantics can have a very negative impact. And that’s completely understandable. Anyone who mentioned “Christ consciousness” around me ten years ago would have been considered a New Age freak completely under the delusion of their own ego. But that’s really not necessary, so let’s see what we can do to rectify this problem, shall we?

Christ consciousness is simply a concept that brings together the complex relationship between spirit and matter. God created the universe through polarity, or positive and negative charges. Think of hydrogen. It is the most basic and fundamental element in the visible universe. It is the primordial substance from which all other atoms emerge. It consists of a positively charged proton and one negatively charged electron. After the big bang, helium was formed through the process of fusion. From the further fusion of hydrogen and helium in the core of stars, all the other elements of the periodic table can be produced. This is how galaxies, solar systems, and even planets formed—all made possible through the inherent qualities of one tiny atom.

In ancient times philosophers thought of polarity in terms of male and female. This was brilliant, because not only did creation happen through the existence of polarity, but procreation happens through the copulation of male and female. Combine the two concepts and you could say creation is the result of a love affair between divine masculine and feminine principles. The writers of the Bible and other religious texts have always conceptualized creation in this way.

It amazes me that so many Christians refuse to realize this esoteric teaching in Genesis. God himself is both male and female:

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female he created them” (Gen. 1:27).

Remember, the above verse is speaking esoterically. In other words, God (existence) is comprised of both consciousness and matter. Consciousness is the male aspect and matter is the female aspect of God. Consciousness impregnated matter to experience existence! And this is why you are a limited expression of the ONE God. Pure spirit needs a body or vessel to express itself through. That’s where you and the rest of creation come in. Essentially, you are a microcosm of God (the macrocosm) because you are made up of both consciousness (spirit) and matter (flesh), both male and female.

Notice how Genesis 5:2 clearly expresses this truth:

“Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam…”

Did you notice how both male and female are called “Adam.” Obviously the Biblical writer intended to show you that the male (consciousness) aspect and the female (body) aspect are both in Adam. By the way, Adam wasn’t a literal person unless you refer to Adam as yourself!:)

Sidenote: In Kabbalah the body of God is called “Adam Kadmon.”

Eve, the mother of all living, is the greater subconscious aspect of Adam (man) that split from the universal mind when God began expression through creation. That is why Eve is called “the mother of all living.” She is the mother (matter) of all conscious expression. Symbolically, she is the memory imprint of all that God has experienced. This aspect of God is also a part of your higher self, which you have access to through the development of Christ consciousness.

Let’s put it another way: you are but a limited (conscious) extension of all that is, which is Existence itself. Migene Gonzalez-Whippler has written in Kabbablah for the Modern World that a better translation of “I am that I am” for which God reveals himself to Moses is:

“…Existence is Existence.”

Interesting. Existence is God and God is existence. And we exist! You do the math:)

Let’s also compare existence to the hydrogen atom we discussed earlier. All other atoms come from this one primordial atom. Just like the many different elements in the periodic table are the many different expressions of the polarity in hydrogen, so is our existence one of the many different conscious expressions of the one Spirit, God.

Let’s face it; the reason why Genesis can state that God is both male and female, and Jesus can state that God is spirit, is because spirit and matter have always been two sides of the same coin. Anybody wanting to learn more about this simple truth can study it through Kabbalah and Theosophy.  Once you get past the complicated lingo, the concept is quite beautiful.

Brief review of creation in Genesis

As creation unfolded, primordial consciousness went from experiencing hydrogen to eventually man. This entire process is unfolded in Genesis. In the beginning the earth (matter) was without form and void. And the spirit of God (consciousness) hovered over the waters (expanse of nothingness) and light came forth. This light represents the impregnation of consciousness into the void of matter to bring forth the creation. Did you know that light is mysteriously both a particle of matter and a wave?! And God is light! He is both spirit and matter. The light that we see with the physical eye is but a limited expression of the ultimate light (spirit and matter) of which God is.

As the creation continues in Genesis, man is the last person created on day six. Have you ever wondered why man is last, before the final seventh day of completion and rest? Let me remind you again of the great mystic and Sufi, Ibn al Arabi:

“God sleeps in the rock, dreams in the plant, stirs in the animal, and awakens in man.”

The above quote is just a simple summary of the first chapter of Genesis!

And man is the last experience of conscious expression in Genesis because man is the pinnacle of God’s conscious expression on planet earth! In other words, that which makes up man is the superlative of God’s experience here on this earth thus far (on planet earth). Through Christ (Christ consciousness), we must now enter into that seventh day rest of completion with God. This brings us to our next topic.

Enter the veil of the tabernacle and temple in the Bible

Let’s switch gears a little bit. Hopefully you have read my last three articles explaining how the tabernacles and temples of God represent the human body, specifically the brain. Just like there was a veil separating the holy place from the holy of holies in the tabernacle and Solomon’s temple, there is also a veil in your brain.

Many of my readers are familiar with Bill Donahue at, but for those who don’t know about him, I want to introduce you to one of his brilliant Bible assessments.

Before I read Bill’s material, I knew that the third ventricle of the brain was unique in that it held a mysterious process whereby higher consciousness was reached. Once can’t help but to realize this through the Eye of Horus. But Bill unveils the Biblical passage that shows without a doubt that the third ventricle of the brain is the holy of holies in all the Biblical temples. Let’s look at a scripture to illuminate this mystery.

Holy of Holies“The door for the middle chamber was in the right side of the house: and they went up with winding stairs into the middle chamber, and out of the middle into the third” (1 Kings 6:8).

As Bill states, “The door references the right hemisphere of the brain. The winding stairs the serpentine DNA motion up the spine and the third speaks of the third ventricle of the brain.”

Interestingly, Bill then points out how even modern medical writings compare the third ventricle to an individual room. He quotes:

“The third ventricle is a narrow vertical cleft between the two lateral ventricles. It possesses a roof, a floor and four walls: anterior, posterior, and two lateral. The roof is formed by the tela choroidea.”

You can see all this on Bill’s website here:

What Bill does not go into on that page is the union of the positive and negative charges that need to happen in this ventricle to cause the Christ consciousness experience. More on this in a moment.

Third VentricleBill also states that the veil dividing the holy of holies and the holy place in Solomon’s Temple is the arachnoid, a web like structure in the brain separating pia matter from the dura matter. More on this also in a moment also.

The symbolism of the veil in scripture

The crucifixion and subsequent renting of the veil in the temple is an allegory for something that happens inside your brain. This makes the spirituality of Jesus and the cross practical.

Think of the cross itself. This is an ancient symbol for how consciousness inhabits the physical plane. Literally, the cross symbolizes consciousness being crucified in matter. The vertical piece of the cross is the consciousness / male aspect, and the horizontal part of the cross symbolizes the matter / female aspect. Jesus was crucified at Golgotha, which means the “place of the skull.” Again, this is another clue that Jesus’ death and resurrection takes place in your body and brain, not on a literal cross. Naming the place “Golgotha” is an esoteric way of saying that it’s all about what happens in your head!

This veil is also symbolical of the division between your higher and lower self, the conscious and subconscious / meta-conscious mind. In other words, the veil represents the separation of our limited I-ness from cosmic awareness. The union between the two is known as “illumination” in Kabbalah. This process is part of the raising of kundalini from the solar plexus to the third ventricle of the brain where a union takes place between the polarity of your pineal and pituitary glands.

At the beginning of this article we discussed the positive and negative forces within creation. We also discussed how these polarities are in our bodies since we are both male and female. The pineal and pituitary glands are one aspect of the masculine and feminine energies within us.

The process of Enlightenment, then, is about uniting the polarities within us so that the mind can become whole again. This happens with the renting of the veil.

Pineal Gland

My regular readers are well aware of the pineal gland’s significance. It is referred twice in the Bible—Jesus calls it the single eye, and Jacob called it Peniel.

It is interesting that Jesus associates the single eye with light, because the pineal gland closely resembles the eye and is stimulated by light.

Esoteric literature affiliates this gland with higher consciousness, divine knowledge, and intuition. Rene Descartes stated that the pineal gland was the “seat of the soul.” Edgar Cayce agreed. I also believe this is the gateway through which our limited consciousness merges with the subconscious and meta-conscious, enabling us to access higher knowledge. It is the divine feminine aspect of polarity, and relates to the higher self and expanded consciousness. It is also connected with the seventh chakra, or crown chakra. Cyndi Dale, author of The Complete Book of Chakra Healing, has this to say about the pineal gland:

Recent research is associating the pineal with biochemical and electromagnetic properties that encourage good health, but also enable enlightenment. Biochemically, the pineal gland regulates the use of tryptophan, an amino acid, to produce hormones that regulate sleep, appetite, emotions, circadian rhythms, body temperature, consciousness, and mystical and psychic experiences.

Perhaps the pineal gland is related to our subconscious and meta-conscious selves?

Pituitary Gland

Whereas the pineal gland is known as the “seat of the soul,” the pituitary gland is known as the “seat of the mind and intellect.” It contains the energy of the divine masculine. This is also related to the sixth chakra and our ego through emotions and thought. According to the same author referenced above:

“The pituitary gland is considered an important energetic organ, in that it contains magnetite, a magnetically sensitive compound that in birds, helps them find due north and maintain balance when flying. Science has discovered a cluster of magnetite crystals near the pituitary in humans, which suggests that the pituitary explains our sensitivity to magnetic fields.”

pineal and pituitaryInteresting. I don’t really think science even begins to understand the depth and breadth of these amazing endocrine glands. But somehow ancient mystics did. How, we might ask? Because once these mystics attained Enlightenment, they had access to the higher knowledge detailing the purpose and function of all the bodily organs.

For those of you wondering if there really is any Biblical support for this, remember that Moses raised the brazen serpent in the wilderness and all the people who looked upon it were healed. The raising of this serpent, or “serpent energy” (kundalini) as it is sometimes called, is the process of bringing God’s divine energy into the Holy of holies (third ventricle of the brain). We already know that the pituitary and pineal glands contain magnetic and electromagnetic properties. It makes sense then that kundalini could cause the pineal and pituitary glands to vibrate in sort of a synchronized union, opening the third eye and illuminating the consciousness of the individual. The way ordinary consciousness  happens in the brain has much to do with electrical charges anyway.

Could all this be the true meaning of the veil that is rent?

Thanks to Bill, we already discussed how the arachnoid in the brain is the veil in the temple. This was a brilliant assessment because the pineal gland is surrounded by pia mater, and the pituitary gland is surrounded by a thin layer of folded dura mater. To be more specific, the pituitary gland connects with dura mater on the anterior side of the third ventricle, and the pineal gland is connected with pia matter in the posterior end of the third ventricle. Since the arachnoid is the web or curtain in the brain that separates the dura and pia matter, we can say that it is a sort of veil separating the two glands as well. The vibrating of these two glands in unison represents the renting of the veil between the holy place (conscious self) and the holy of holies (access to meta-consciousness).

What can we conclude from all this?

At the very least, we can now say that some of the toughest passages in scripture aren’t so super spiritual. Not only do they have a lot in common with science, but biology as well. Maybe modern and science will soon learn what the mystics already knew thousands of years ago.

In my next post we are going to look more at the right and left hemispheres of the brain. As you’ll see, this is also an important part of the temple structure in the Bible.

{ 33 comments… read them below or add one }

motla68 March 3, 2013 at 9:47 am

Josh, I think you need to go back and do some fact checking again about the location of your biblical quotes, you stated for Genesis 1:28 ” “Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam…” , But if you do a little verification you will find that this does not appear until Genesis 5:2. Maybe your getting information from elsewhere, if that is the case then you need to go back and help get the mistakes corrected up the messenger chain there.

On another note just reading through your aticle here blew my mind because just last night i sent an email posting out to my group on a very similar subject content that i think you will enjoy:

Subject: Bible = Manual for building lasting empires.

If we look at the bible for as long as it has lasted and at a abstract approach,
one could consider this a revision on the interest of Gen 1:26 ;

MSO (Manufacturer Statement of Origination) of man = Genesis 2:7

” And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. ”

When male and female was formed they became the persona of the spiritual man – living soul.

Gen 1:26 is the assurance authority to create a title before the body was formed, evidence of this is this;

Gen 2:5 ” And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew”

Also to further explain in association with above:

Gen 1:27 ” So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. ”

This can get a little confusing I know, was chasing my tail around about it too for a while.
As I said earlier male and female is the persona of the spiritual man, this is where the word ” human ” comes
in, so then spirit is the only thing real.

A name is given to the body creating a title, the first time Adam’s name is mentioned, are you a living creature?

Gen 2:19
” And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. ”

Now lets put this into similar common prospective:

1. Mother and father give consent to one another to conceive a child >> assurance of authority gen 1:26

2. x an y chroms determine male or female >> gen 1:27

3. a child is formed >> gen 2:7

4. true name is given to the child >> gen 2:19

And the rest of the bible is associative to the same history that keeps repeating itself.

Also have recently watched the movie: Lord of the Rings in it’s entirety, very long but inspriational !

‘ motla68

There is more to this that we have been studying that is applicable to our day, we can discuss it privately sometime and maybe you can work it into an article on your blog here sometime.

‘ nemaste


motla68 March 3, 2013 at 10:02 am

Also wanted to say that I have pointed my group in your direction for taking some baby steps of learning about the Kingdom within. Thank you


Joshua Tilghman March 3, 2013 at 8:03 pm

Sounds good Motla. The more the merrier! Maybe we can get some good discussion going.


Joshua Tilghman March 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm


very interesting perspective. I don’t know if you enjoy writing, but if you do and think you could get a short article together I be honored to have you guest post it in your name. If you don’t like writing, I’d be happy to do something on it.

Thanks for the pointing out Genesis 5:28. I have a another reader who pointed out another similar issue recently. I have figured out tonight why this keeps happening. I have e-sword (free Bible software) I use on my computer to look up scriptures from time to time to compare. It gives the original Greek and Hebrew meanings as well. Mixing up the scriptures was a result of toggling back and forth between scriptures in separate windows. I simply copied and pasted wrong one and slapped the scripture number down. No real harm done as it doesn’t change the meaning, but it can be frustrating for people who look back to verify the scripture. I’ll be sure to keep this in check as I copy a scripture to past next time.



motla68 March 3, 2013 at 9:34 pm

Thanks, but this is your blog my friend, I can send you something and just write me in as an assist or co-author. I have not been through all your articles as of yet. perhaps my later comments will achieve the intended purpose.


Laurie March 3, 2013 at 11:12 am

Thank you for writing this. This just took me to a whole new level and tied in things I was already learning about. It seriously felt like you wrote it just for me. lol


Joshua Tilghman March 3, 2013 at 7:55 pm


My pleasure! Hope you are well.



Christine Hoeflich March 4, 2013 at 3:58 pm

Hey Josh,

re: “As creation unfolded, primordial consciousness went from experiencing hydrogen to eventually man.” I have intuitively felt that we (our souls) have experienced lives as different forms of life, not only as humans, and we have access to the wisdom of those lives through our higher consciousness. What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks! Christine


Joshua Tilghman March 5, 2013 at 7:12 pm

Christine, it’s certainly possible. I have never really come upon any of this in esoteric studies. Maybe someone else will enlighten us who has, either for or against the idea. I would certainly be interested.


Christine Hoeflich March 6, 2013 at 12:49 am

I mean, doesn’t it make sense that we have experienced lives as eagles, or as dinosaurs? Perhaps the Bible says something on animals having souls?


Joshua Tilghman March 6, 2013 at 11:44 pm


Absolutely. And animals have souls, just not a developed mental and emotional nature like ours. God stirs in the animal, but awakens in man. By the way, your last question would make an interesting blog post. I’ll try to address it sometime.


anny May 9, 2013 at 6:38 am

Hi Christine and Joshua,

I certainly believe that animals have souls. When man is created and called a living soul, the word nefesh is used and this word is also used for animals. Man does not have a physical body yet at that stage. I think this nefesh of animals has also a mental and emotional nature which you can notice in the behaviour of higher developed animals, but not as highly developed as in humans, at least the mental part.

Did we experience lives as eagles or dinosaurs? I think yes. Maybe not if you just follow back our particular line of descent but certainly as part of the whole which is One after all. God experiences everything that all forms and levels of consciousness experience and as part of the whole – which sometimes is called a hologram – we contain the essence of everything that the Whole contains and thus everyone and everything shares in all experiences of the whole.


Allen Steinhauer March 6, 2013 at 12:55 pm

Our spirits have lived for along, along time… and were in existence long before the creation of the Earth. This earth life is a very difficult life…with all its many ‘temptations’ and the ‘knowing good and evil.’
In my mind…it is unlikely an ‘infant’ soul would be allowed to come to earth. Thus…we no doubt existed, began our experiences on other worlds that were much easier to live.

“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?…when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? ” (Job 38:4,7)

According to the above verse…the ‘sons of God’ who are ‘humans souls’ today… are not angels, as preachers will have us to believe….but these spirits/souls… ‘sons of God’ were PRESENT at the Creating of the Earth.
That is us. All of mankind.
This shows that we have existed as spirits for a long time…even before Earth came into existence.


Joshua Tilghman March 6, 2013 at 11:40 pm


Do you believe we were spirits with a high level of self awareness before earth. Just curious.


Allen Steinhauer March 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm

These are just my thoughts…and subject to change. I am learning something new every day.

Did we have a high level of self awareness b/4 earth… absolutely.
According to the bible… only human ‘mankind’ are referred to as ‘sons of God.’ Thus, (Job 38:4,7) seems to demonstrate a telling level of awareness…at the creating of the earth.

Personally, I don’t believe that we started life on earth as some swamp maggot…it just doesn’t seem to fit the tenor of the above verses.

Similarly as we are rays, a beam, a spark or however one may describe our existence coming out from the Source, The Spirit, or God…likewise…is our soulical existence on earth, or any material world throughout the universe.
Thus, what we experience as our soul (today), is only a very small part, or component, which is out of our very much larger ‘oversoul’. Our ‘oversoul’ is our superconsicous…that we may tap into. Some have learned how to do this, more so than others.

The soulical conscisouness that man exhibits on earth is quite small, yet it is progressive as one experience life here. Thus, this glimmer of soul life that we experience is only a sliver out from our greater ‘oversoul.’ Upon death, this sliver goes back into our greater soul. At least, that’s how I see it today.

It’s conjecture…but it’s fun to start somewhere.


Allen Steinhauer March 6, 2013 at 1:44 pm

The following are (2) examples of ‘beings’ coming from another part of our universe to observe earth and it’s human beings.

War Letters From The Living Dead Man


I Have Travelled Far
Who came from a world called Ovana, and her name is Tristiana


Joshua Tilghman March 6, 2013 at 11:37 pm

Thanks for sharing Allen.


Num!nouS November 2, 2013 at 3:41 am

You actually believe that these were written by extra-terrestrial or inter-dimensional type beings that visited this dimension or actually walked upon Earth? I won’t say it’s impossible, but I will say that’s highly improbable.


allen November 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm

Hi there — Num!nouS,
O.K. would you consider the following individuals — to be extra-terrestrial or inter-dimensions type beings?
‘Seraphims / Seraphs’ — Isaiah 6:1-7,
They had six wings…the sound of their voice shook the temple…and it was filled with smoke. They flew about the throne of God , singing praises and they served as agents of purification for Isaiah as he began his ministry. By placing a hot coal against Isaiah’s lips.
‘Cherubim / Cherubs’ — Genesis 3:24, Ezekiel 1:6,
They were placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden, Cherubim had a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
‘Living Creatures / Four Beasts’ – Revelations 4:6-9, 5:6-14, 6:1-8, 14:3,
They lead in worship and adoration of God, they are involved in some way with the seals.
‘Guardian Angels’ — Matthew 18:10,
Looking down on the little ones.
‘Archangel / Chief Angel / Prince’ — 1 Thess. 4:16, Daniel 10:13,
The voice of the archangel and disputed about the body of Moses.
Who are those ‘UNDER’ the earth?
(Phil 2:10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.
(Rev. 5:3) And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
(Deut. 5:8)You shall not make you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
WHO are those ‘IN’ the Sea?
(Rev 5:13) And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing and honor and glory and power be unto him that sitteth upon the throne and unto the lamb forever and ever.
(Isa. 27:1) In that day the Lord with his hard and great and strong sword will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent, Leviathan the twisting serpent, and he will slay the dragon that is in the sea.
(Rev. 13:1-2) And I saw a beast rising out of the sea… and to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority.
Job 41:31 – “It makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment..
WHERE is the ‘NETHER PARTS’ of the earth?
(Eze.31:14-18; 32:18; 32:24) The world below and the deep. The depth of the earth and the pit.
WHO is the DRAGON?
(Rev 12:3-4) “And there appeared another ‘WONDER’ in Heaven; and behold a ‘GREAT RED DRAGON,’ having SEVEN HEADS and TEN HORNS, and SEVEN CROWNS upon his heads. And his tail drew the THIRD PART OF THE STARS OF HEAVEN, and did cast them to the earth: and the DRAGON stood before the WOMAN which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her CHILD as soon as it was born.”
And WHERE does (he/it/they) live?….WHAT does it look like?…. Is this to be understood literally or symbolically?
Job 41:1-34 (entire chapter) – “Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook or tie down its tongue with a rope?
Who are the ‘NEPHILIMS’?
The Nephilims = the ‘fallen ones’ or the ‘earth-born’.
Gen 6:4 – “There were Nephilims in the earth in those days and also after that, when the Sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them, the same became mighty menwhich were of old, men of renown.”
When Moses sent in the 12 spies…
Num 13:33 – “We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.”
Who are the ‘GREYS’…and the…‘REPTILIANS’?
The alien shoot out at dulce underground base 2011
Phil Schneider – The Underground: The True Story Of A Hidden Reality
War With Alien Greys At Dulce Base – UFOs – Moon – Apollo
Complete interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta – 2:15:07
Delores Cannon – Pt 3/3 on Free Will, Intergalactic Beings & Non-interference


Num!nouS November 3, 2013 at 8:41 pm

Okay now wait a minute. Before you begin to make a baseless assumption, I would like to say that I believe in these otherwordly beings, but I just don’t believe that they wrote/typed those things that he posted. I think some people want others to believe SO MUCH that they will go as far as to lie and create a hoax EVEN IF their hoax is spawned from truth. I’ve seen it many time before. I didn’t say impossible, I just said HIGHLY IMPROBABLE. I’ll go ahead and take it down a notch a just say it’s UNLIKELY.


allen November 3, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Got it…
I would be interested to hear your views on the so-called ‘GREYS’…and the…‘REPTILIANS’.
Are these the beings that may be presently living UNDER our earth?
I may have made contact with them once.

Peace to you my friend…. allen.


Num!nouS November 4, 2013 at 1:23 am

I believe the Greys are Extra-terrestrial, but still are in this dimensional. The Reptilians I believe are inter-dimensional, and exist on a lower frequency level than our 5 senses can perceive. The reptilians have more of a hierarchy, and the Greys focus more on advancement of technology and medical things for THEIR species. The Reptilians are only concerned with manipulating Humans from their frequency level, and are believed to either be shape-shifters or possess an extremely advanced holographic technology that projects a human image around their body. This is all just regurgitated data from the internet though, so take it with a grain of salt. I can’t confirm any of these things to be true, nor do I believe them to be with absolute certainty. You asked me what my views are on these 2 species, so there it is. I will always remain skeptical as I have absolutely no proof myself. Why do you say you made contact with a Grey or Reptilian?


allen November 4, 2013 at 6:56 pm

Thank you for your thoughts…but this is Josh’s board and we have completely left the topic of his thread.
I think it would be best, if you or anyone wants to continue in this discussion to email me directly.



David G. March 5, 2014 at 4:07 pm

Dear Josh,
I enjoy readings on this website. It’s like a spiritual buffet every visit. I’m writting because I want to study deeply on the Rapture via Being caught up. I’m trying to break the tradition christian mindset on that subject. It’s sad that I always looking to see Yahshua in a literal sense at the 2nd Coming. Thank You, Yah bless!!!!


Joshua Tilghman March 6, 2014 at 7:56 pm


I appreciate the comment. Blessings my friend.


Geoffrey October 2, 2014 at 9:01 am

Your write ups as always amazes me. The in depth and esoteric interpretations are all out of my former sphere of understanding. I grew up as a Christian and am now over fifty. I have mingled with religious teachers with PhDs but non of them interprets the Bible the way you. Your interpretation speaks volumes. If this is the case, and I believe it is, them 99.9% of Christian teachings are on a wrong premise. Very unfortunate.

Coming to you article and to many comments thereof. There is something I have noted from the commentaries which I wish to point out. Some people are wondering whether animals have souls. And latter others may wonder whether plants have souls too. What I have come to understand as I keep on studying metaphysics sciences is that all of us, the universe and everything and anything in it and out of it, is One Thing= God. God experiencing himself in various individuated entities. So there is no question of soul being where. All of us and everything is matter out of Spirit.
What would be your comments, sir?
Thanks for all you are doing.


Kayla Eble April 8, 2015 at 6:12 pm

Hi! So I’ve recently been studying Christ consciousness, dimensions and enlightenment and I ran into this post today! I was curious, because a lot of the information in this post makes sense to me and actually clears up a lot of questions I’ve had in the past. I do believe there is a lot in the bible that shouldn’t be taken so literally. However, when you talk about Jesus and his story only being metaphorical, is this a statement that Jesus wasn’t a real man who died on a cross? The story of Jesus and many other stories in the bible are regarded as truth to even the most respected scientists and historians. I would really love to hear more of your ideas! Definitely a perspective worth researching!
Hope to hear back from you! Namaste!


Joshua Tilghman December 25, 2015 at 3:49 pm

Kayla, yes, I have come to believe over the years that Jesus was a myth, albeit one of the greatest ever told that explains our own chance to unite with divinity. The story of Jesus may have been based on a historical person, but there was much added over the years. More and more scholars are now arguing this point, and I believe in the next few decades you will see the tide begin to turn. That being said, I don’t think it diminishes the spiritual blessing the Bible can bring to us.


Martin November 1, 2015 at 7:14 am

I enjoyed this article very much. The truth has a way of upsetting people who are not ready for it ( Christians ). I was a pastor for many years until I saw these truths of the bible and what they really meant. I made a lot of people angry when I tried to show them these things and lost many friends. I’m not worried about all that because I became Christ Concious when I left Christianity. I am more of a true Christian now than I ever was. I have found my peace. Great stuff brother


Joshua Tilghman December 22, 2015 at 8:20 pm

Thanks for reading, Martin.


kenneth March 27, 2016 at 9:19 pm

If all of this is true have you personally experienced this higher dimension and what is in in your own words. To say something and have not attained to it is just as bad as taking the Bible literally.


Joshua Tilghman April 5, 2016 at 2:23 pm


Why? If you study the site I have always been honest with people about my own shortcomings and continual effort of crucifying the ego. It is a continual process. Just as it for many taking the Bible literally at first, and then realizing their is much more in the higher symbolic meanings. I am only stating what I have learned through thought study, prayer, and meditation. It either lines up with your experience or it doesn’t. If I had claimed to be some spiritual enlightened saint, then yes, I would have to have the answers to life’s deepest mysteries. In truth I don’t. But I have only conveyed through this site in it’s entirety that the traditional and literal interpretations of the Bible are wanting, and that there is a higher truth to be obtained through symbolic scriptural understanding. Perhaps someone who had reached enlightenment would not even see it fit to do a blog on the subject!

That being said, as I continue to learn, whether intuitively felt or learned through intellectual study, I presently feel the need to share.


adrianne January 12, 2017 at 2:15 am

Hi I just wanted to add a thought, we assume that consciousness just creates the human body but what if the process of creating all the process of creating the nerve network that connects mind to body takes eons and therefore consciousness needs to live through the basic life form through to the more complex life forms. I even think that humans are of various conscious levels . So it may take a few life times to be able to manifest a perfectly operated human form .


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