Jacob, Leah, Higher Consciousness, DMT, and the Pineal Gland

by Joshua Tilghman on January 1, 2015

Third eye consciousness awakeningA few years back I wrote a post about Jacob meeting God at Peniel. Jacob called the place of meeting Peniel because the Hebrew term means “face of God.” In that post we also discussed that Peniel, although a different spelling, can be associated with the pineal gland in the center of the brain. Jacob met God face to face at Peniel because the text is alluding to the mystical experience of activating the pineal gland through kundalini. The pineal gland is sensitive to this subtle yet powerful energy that science cannot yet measure.

Over three hundred years ago Rene Descartes stated that the pineal gland was the seat of the soul. In other words, it’s the seat of our consciousness. Many esoteric teachers tell us that when the physical body dies, the soul and our consciousness leaves through the pineal gland as it is the doorway to higher dimensions. As we’ll see later in this post, Descartes and others weren’t entirely accurate, although they were on to something very special.

Rabbi Joel David Bakst, an expert in the study of Kabbalah, the Torah, and the Talmud, is known as the psychedelic Rabbi. He has a meditation center which helps people access higher dimensional consciousness through focusing on the pineal gland. We’ll discuss some of his research at the end of this post, but first I want to discuss some tremendous insight he provides in helping to explain why the study of the Old Testament lends us to the understanding of the soul. This will become relevant later in the post. He states:

“Written Torah is like the left brain: linear, direct, mathematical, binary. Your right brain, in this case the oral Torah, it’s circular, holistic, rhythmic, unifying. They are different modes, as analog is to digital. When you decode the Torah, you become the corpus callosum (neural fibers connecting the right and left brain hemispheres)—the very mechanism that is responsible for decoding the messages.”

Bakst is indirectly telling us that if you really want to get to the bottom of the Old Testament, it cannot be studied in isolation. It should be accompanied by mystical texts so that the right brain can be utilized. Keeping in line with Bakst’s reasoning, we’ll use a tiny portion of the Midrash in a moment.

With that being said, I want to further explore Jacob’s Peniel experience and transformation. In my first article a few years back, I focused on this Peniel, or Pineal gland experience. Today we’ll view this experience from a wider angle and bring in some other characters and plot to decode as well.

Jacob had two wives: Leah and Rachel. With the understanding that each character is a facet of the soul, let’s delve into what Leah represents. Keep in mind that she is a wife of Jacob, and we cannot understand her part in isolation. Jacob and Leah are one flesh, and each are facets of one soul. The Genesis author has Jacob marry her because she serves as an impetus for Jacob’s prevailing with God. Without Leah, not only would the Israelite nation be incomplete, but so would Jacob’s transformation from the natural man to the spiritual man. The journey of the natural man and the spiritual man, in an even greater context, is us, and this is Leah’s true purpose in the story.

In a broader sense, the esoteric meanings of wife or women is the emotional nature aligned with mind (man). But Leah, whom the Bible takes special mention with her characteristics, deserve more exegesis.

Genesis states that Leah was tender-eyed. As Rochel Holzkenner points out in an article Why Jacob Loved Rachel…but why he had to also marry Leah, when the Torah mentions such a specific characteristic, we need to pay attention. She then gives us the answer from Rashi, who states that Leah was tender-eyed from her constant weeping in prayer and meditation before God. In Holzkenner’s words, “Leah was introspective, a master of meditation and internal communication, plumbing the depths of her soul and always emerging with a newfound appreciation of God. She was a paradigm of humility and innocence, her eyes tender from an outpouring of fresh emotion.”

There is good reason why Holzkenner can make these statements, even though Genesis simply states, she was “tender-eyed.”

According to the Midrash, as the eldest daughter of Laban, she was originally promised to marry Esau. The Rabbi’s tell us that she incessantly wept before God in order to change her destiny because she understood the kind of man Esau was, but the deeper significance is that Leah, the introspective meditator, could not be married to the man who would remain natural, but rather she was destined to be joined with a spiritual man. Her nature was to go within. Leah, as a symbolic representative of the emotional nature aligned with the mind, adds another dimension to Jacob. He required this drive of the introspective nature to meet God face to face at Peniel and become the father of spiritual progeny. All of us need to develop, as Leah, this introspective nature if we are ever to meet God as well.

If you remember the story in Genesis, Jacob married Leah against his will. He was tricked by his father-in-law, Laban. This is important. We often resist developing the introspective nature, but we must learn to do so if we are to get serious about treading the spiritual path. It is my belief that Jacob had to work seven years after marrying Leah before Rachel, because seven is the number of consummation, and this completed Jacob’s willingness of incorporating the introspective nature of Leah within himself.

Before Jacob has his Peniel experience, Genesis states that Jacob sent Rachel and Leah and all that he had across the River of Jabbok. Further it states, “And there Jacob was left alone,” and there he wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day” (Gen 32:24).

Jacob’s wrestling match was of an internal, introspective nature, not an external one. Having incorporated Leah’s introspective nature, Jacob is now ready to have a deeper communion with God. It is a deep meditative experience that last through the night. A few verses later we learn that Jacob is in fact wrestling not a mere man, but the angel of God himself, or the god-man within Jacob. He prevails, because Jacob sees God face to face, and lives. His name is changed to Israel because of this deeply enlightening spiritual transformative process. Jacob is no longer just the natural man. He is now the spiritual man, one that has gone deep within himself and discovered the god-nature that is there, unlocking the nature of God, the universe, and man.

“And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel; for I have seen God face to face and my life is preserved” (Gen. 32:30).

It is interesting to note that this experience takes place near the river of Jabbok. Rivers are symbols for the course of the soul’s evolution, from physical to spiritual existence, indicative of Jacob’s personal experience at Peniel. R.J. Campbell once stated: “The analogy between human life and a river is indeed very complete. Our course starts far from our divine goal, and sometime seems to be leading us right away from it; it is long before we can even catch a glimpse of what it is; but the current of our being gradually deepens and broadens as we near the full ocean of the life of God…”

Campbell’s words describe Jakob’s life. The River Jabbok in Hebrew means “pouring out.” Jacob has been through some hard experiences, and now he is about to meet his brother Esau, who he believes may kill him. Jacob stole the birthright from this brother (naturally so because he was destined to become the spiritual man as opposed to remain a natural man like Esau), and therefore he is now going to pour out his soul to God through meditation and introspection. This is what he wrestled with a man until daybreak signifies.

Gen. 32:31 further states, “And as he passed over Peneul [another variation of Peniel] the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.”

The sun is another symbol for the higher self, and that fact that it “rose upon” Jacob indicates that the higher self was beginning to manifest as higher consciousness within Jacob. Jacob passed over Peniel and the sun rose upon him because kundalini rose to the pineal gland and opened the gateway for a higher dimensional experience. He halted upon his thigh because the thigh is also a symbol for spiritual advancement. According to Gaskel, the position of thigh symbolizes the astral plane.

The awakening of the pineal gland, through the vibration of kundalini is also said to give clairvoyance to the individual on the astral plane. How does this work?

Consciousness, the mental plane, the astral plane, the physical plane

In order to truly understand what the writer was trying to portray with Jacob at Peniel, we have to discuss higher reality. Descartes wasn’t totally right when he said the pineal gland is the seat of the soul. He would have been more accurate to say that the pineal gland is the gateway to higher consciousness as perceived by the physical brain. Your consciousness, as it relates to thoughts, emotions, and will, resides in the mental sheath/body on the mental plane.

Below the mental plane is another level of reality called the astral plane. The frequency here is lower than the mental plane, but still much higher than science can detect. To interface with this plane, you have an astral sheath/body. Your astral sheath is necessary because it is the conduit for desire, the lower emotions, and sensory-motor functions to be relayed from the physical body to the mental body on the mental plane. Keep in mind that when I say it is below the mental plane, I only do so for the sake of explaining, because the planes are not really separate but interpenetrate one another. The mental body, astral sheath, and physical body are all necessary for the personality of a human to incarnate.

Below the astral plane is the physical plane of the four states (including plasma) of matter which can be perceived by the physical senses. The frequency is again much lower than either astral or mental matter. Before we can speak about the significance of the pineal gland, we need to understand that science believes consciousness and emotions originate only in a physical body through electrical and chemical responses. But they are only distributed here. They originate on the mental plane, and are perceived in the astral and physical planes because of those body interfaces that you have. When one’s awareness leaves the physical body, either through death or certain states of deep sleep, emotions and thoughts are still perceived in the astral sheath, albeit through a higher vibration/frequency than physical.

The pineal gland, Jacob’s experience, and the Christ

The pineal gland, resembling a pine cone, geometrically sits in the center of your physical brain, above the third ventricle. It is the only gland which does not have a blood-brain barrier, and therefore receives blood flow directly through two arteries. During breathing meditation, it receives a lot of oxygen, and can release certain biological chemicals contributing to altered states of consciousness.

Science is still behind on all the functions of the pineal gland, but we now know that it truly resembles an eye structurally (hence the third eye). It sits behind the retina and is sensitive to light. When the lights go out, it releases melatonin, which controls our sleep cycles. Esoteric study reveals that in certain stages of sleep, consciousness leaves the physical body, possibly because of certain chemicals being released.

Jesus said, if your eye be single, then you whole body will be full of light. He is speaking of the third eye or pineal gland. The Bible also says that the people who sat in darkness (meditation), saw a great light. That light is Christ consciousness. This is the same experience that Jacob had at peniel. But How?

It is also now being scientifically established the pineal gland also releases DMT. Dimethyltryptamine, or DMT, is sometimes called the “spirit molecule” because it has the ability to profoundly alter man’s state of consciousness. Let’s see the effects!

Rick Strassman

Note: I gathered this information about Strassman and his participant experiences on DMT HERE if you wish to learn more.

In the only government sponsored research experiment on the effects of DMT, a man named Dr. Strassman administered the chemical to sixty participants over five years. He then questioned what the experience was like. They all took journeys, but this is how they were described by some of the participants.

“…You leave your body, at warp speed, backward through your DNA, into the universe.

—Susan Bluementhal

“Layers of your humanity melt away. [The trip] “…takes you to the edge of the universe…the core of meaning…a divine realm…to say the least, it was profound.”

—Patricio Dominguez

These are just two witness examples, but all participants had similar experiences. But what’s really happening in these instances? Is this just some wild drug that sends people mentally insane for a while, or it there something very real to these altered states of consciousness?

I firmly believe that either one of two things is going on here.

  1. DMT, and maybe even melatonin, have the ability to temporarily raise our consciousness frequency enough to perceive in the astral and possibly mental planes, or,
  2. DMT and melatonin temporarily suppresses physical consciousness, automatically leaving higher conscious frequency as the only option, much like what happens at death.

In either of these two scenarios, the higher dimensions are opened up to be perceived by our thoughts, emotions, and will. It is not something magical, but simply a higher reality. The people in the study with Mr. Strassman, then, really did temporarily leave the physical world of consciousness even though their bodies remain behind.

More on Jacob’s Peniel experience and Christ consciousness

Is such a DMT experience like the same one portrayed in Genesis as Jacob wrestled God? I think it’s safe to say this is what the writer wishes to portray. If Jacob saw God face to face, and we understand that his wrestling match was an internal one, then we can assume an experience such as traveling to a divine realm where the core of meaning is realized would be synonymous with seeing God “face to face.” Seeing God face to face is another way of seeing a higher reality beyond the physical world. Of course Jacob didn’t take DMT, he naturally released it through deep meditation.

As evidenced through text like the Bible, even though the ancients couldn’t tell you what DMT was, they obviously knew that pineal gland was an important organ somehow responsible for experiencing higher worlds or dimensions through activities like astral projection. How they knew these particulars is something we may never discover, but the fact that they DID know is clearly pineal gland pine cone vaticandemonstrated in mystical texts. My guess is that they experienced the higher dimensions directly through trial and error of deep meditation which has a profound effect on the pineal gland. Advanced knowledge of human physiology was lost through different Dark Ages to the general public, but certain mystics retained this knowledge and passed it on through occult sciences. And of course this knowledge has been retained in sculptures and artwork around the world across many different religions. Consider that even the Vatican has a giant statue of a pine cone, representing the pineal gland, as seen in the picture to the right. Upon further research, you’ll find the same symbolism on the pope’s staff, the staff of Osiris, the staff of Dionysus, and even the Gods of the Sumerians. Even Krishna’s and Buddha’s head and hair placement symbolize the pinecone in sculpture and art.


The fact that the Bible alludes to these mystical experiences, like Jesus’ mention of the single eye being full of light and Jacob naming the place he saw God Peniel, cannot be argued away. These are obviously real mystical experiences that the ancient writers of scripture were aware of. When we bring in other symbolic characters like Leah, we see a more complete picture being presented of what is portrayed to happen with Jacob. Mastering the introspective meditative nature, Jacob’s name was changed to Israel right after his face to face with God experience, signifying that the natural man had crossed over from being the physical or natural man to the spiritual man. In other words, Jacob has come to realize the reality of the higher worlds, and that direct experiential knowledge has given him the right to be the father of a spiritual progeny who would symbolize a higher consciousness to mankind. That legacy is still here with us today through the many ancient religious texts of the world which, when interpreted with a deeper esoteric understanding, are guide maps to the human soul and how to access its deeper mysteries.

Even today, mainstream science is trying to play catchup to the soul science of the ancient world. That is because mainstream science is still focused on external lower reality, and refuses to acknowledge the possibility that consciousness is a profound mystery not localized in the brain. It is my hope that that will someday change.

By the way, if you haven’t read my first post on Jacob and the pineal gland it can be found below:

Part 1 / Part 2

Additional Note: As I was about to publish this article, Robert sent me a web address, HERE, explaining Peniel meaning and etymology. The root contribution, Pana, can mean to “look within.” This lends further support that Peniel means discovering the face of God by looking within. Within what? The answer: ourselves.

Many blessings and happy New Year!

{ 35 comments… read them below or add one }

Robert January 1, 2015 at 5:30 pm


This is one of your finest articles. Thanks for the credit at the end. It seems we have both been looking at Jewish literature lately for different purposes which just happened to overlap.

I was wondering if anyone might be confused by the term Midrash. Midrash is Hebrew for “commentary, exposition or “investigation” that is derived from a Hebrew verb that means “to search”. Thus it is searching out a matter more deeply. Midrash specifically refers to literature written by Jewish sages after the destruction of Herod’s temple until the end of the middle ages, which comments on the OT. After the destruction of the temple and scattering of Jews, Rabbis feared the oral law would be lost, and began to write it down in the Talmud (means “study”). The Talmud contained Midrashim (plural of Midrash). But then after the Talmud was formed, many other sages began to contribute independent Midrashim, which were all combined together in one text called Midrash Rabbah (Great Commentary). The passage about Leah may have been a part of one book of this, commenting on Genesis, written in about the 6th century CE. The 11th century Jewish sage Rashi then comments on this in his collection of commentaries, by going back to the OT scripture and interjecting his interpretation.

One group of Jews reject the Talmud and all commentaries. Until the Renaissance, Christians also avoided studying these sources, and some of this behavior has continued with the modern biblical literalists. The Jewish Hasidic denomination known as Chabad, which combines reason and mysticism and includes study of Kabbalah, is a major expounder of Rashi.

Rochel Holzkenner and her husband lead a modernistic Chabad congregation, and she is a prolific and respected author.


Joshua Tilghman January 2, 2015 at 12:08 pm


I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for all the information on the Midrash. It’s important for readers to not only understand what it is, but that it can be very helpful when looking into the Biblical stories to find out more about certain characters. Of course there is sometimes a lot of disagreement, but that happens through interpreting all religious texts in any religion. The important thing is that the Rabbi’s had a wonderful way of reasoning crucial aspects of the text out for further examination, providing the worthy student a better chance for a holistic approach.


Robert January 1, 2015 at 7:16 pm


Where in the world did you get that photo of a Pine Cone monument? Who are those Gothic looking dudes underneath it, and what are those mysterious birds?


Joshua Tilghman January 2, 2015 at 12:18 pm


This picture and many others can be found on google images. Just type in “pine cone” and “Vatican.” Some refer to it as the Pine Cone Court at the Vatican. Most who visit it are oblivious to its symbolism. The birds are Egyptian Binu birds, which I believe mean the same thing as the phoenix, which represents the transformation of higher consciousness. These birds also look like peacocks, which also have been used in mystical art for millennia. Perhaps there is a correlation between the two? I have never researched it. I look into the “gothic looking dudes” you mention.


Raymond Phelan January 2, 2015 at 2:56 pm


This is yet another brilliant article of esoteric insight into spiritual awakening through meditation, resulting in accessing higher cosmic consciousness. I remember reading your part one “wrestling with God” around this time last year, saying to myself, WOW… and now this article!!

Pineal Gland entering indeed offers mankind THE route-map to the Promised Land within. Thank you, Josh, We’re so blessed to have a resource as SOS.




Joshua Tilghman January 2, 2015 at 3:33 pm

Thanks, Raymond. This was a lot of fun to write.


James January 3, 2015 at 3:49 am

Hello Josh. Great article! I’ve also read somewhere that stimulating the gland can also assist in seeing past life experiences as well. And that Jesus taught deciples how to go into a trance to see the future with the same meditation technic to stimulate the gland (3rd eye). Might you have read the same info somewhere?


Joshua Tilghman January 3, 2015 at 10:05 am

Hi James,

Yes, esoteric literature teaches that a kundalini awakening can allow one to see past lives, but I’ve never read anything about being able to see the future. Do you remember where you read this?


Robert January 5, 2015 at 12:31 am


There may be several modes of reaching states of mind that exceed the standard state of consciousness. DMT seems to stimulate activity at lightning speed, creating out-of-body experiences and visions. The mindfulness effect may be somewhat different, occurring by relaxing the body and slow rhythmic breathing, getting closer to the slow brain wave rhythms of sleep and at the same time gradually rechanneling of nerve pathways. Chanting mantras can be both relaxing and stimulating, as it effects the chakras, making a way for kundalini energy to rise. Parapsychologists believe the Pineal gland is important in “Psy” activities such as extrasensory perception and telekinesis. These are all relatively new discoveries within the last 30 years. Before that the Pineal gland in modern medicine was thought to be a relatively non-functioning, a gland the size of a grain of rice at the base of the brain that was known mostly for having tumors.


Joshua Tilghman January 5, 2015 at 8:36 pm


I didn’t mention this in the article, but I believe in the mindfulness approach. I wouldn’t take DMT if I had the chance, not in a million years. Not that I judge people who do, but I like the idea of natural progression.


Robert January 6, 2015 at 1:25 pm


The parapsychologists have experimental evidence that the pineal and adrenal glands release the body’s natural DMT source in greater amounts during flight or flight situations that provide an extra survival skill through Psy experiences. It follows a path slightly different than the fear response, but is activated during severe stress or emergencies. Temporary natural boosts in DMT might also be involved in purposefully influencing the environment by other than normal means. Input and output of high frequency brain waves are also associated with that, and may have originally been part of primal human survival skills such as attracting a mate.

Artificial DMT has been used in controlled psychological experiments to learn more about this.

The ancient and modern shamans and American Indians use(d) plants that boost DMT artificially for spiritual enlightenment, and that practice unfortunately was adopted by mid 20th century street drug culture that used it carelessly for kicks. Excessive use of any psychoactive drug can oversaturate the brain and cause serious and even permanent brain damage along with lingering or permanent psychological problems. People that already have inherent psychological problems are the most vulnerable. Some psychoactive medicines when used under strictly controlled conditions in protected environments, administered by professions, have shown promise in being therapeutic. This is the research frontier of our modern shamans of Westernized society with MDs and PHDs.

Hope this is helpful.


Greg Stamper January 7, 2015 at 12:26 pm

Thank you for this post brother! Always insightful and a fresh perspective. Looking forward to reading more from and about Rabbi Joel David Bakst.


Joshua Tilghman January 7, 2015 at 7:44 pm

Thanks, Greg. I appreciate the comment.


Janine January 8, 2015 at 9:43 am

Thank you for this article, I’m catching up with all the recents blogs sent around Christmas and I’m loving them all, as always.


Joshua Tilghman January 29, 2015 at 5:48 pm

Thank you, Janine.


Eva LaRoche February 9, 2015 at 7:15 am

Hey, Josh! Thank you for sharing the secrets of the bible. Before coming across Bill Donahue’s site hiddenmeanings.com and now yours, I thought of the bible as garbage and reviled it. Now I know it’s a treasure that had been hidden from me until I was ready for my true awakening. I say true, because I thought I was awakened many many years ago, but now I realize, I was still in a half asleep half awake state. You and Bill are on the same frequency, and now so am I. The interpretations have completely dissolved most of my WHY questions about everything to do with this world. Are you familiar with Bill? Keep up the great work and thank you again for sharing your important work. Be blessed, be well!


Joshua Tilghman February 10, 2015 at 9:22 pm

Thank you, Eva. And yes, Bill is a great teacher, opening my mind to many revelations!


Diane January 8, 2016 at 7:56 pm

Thanks for the great reading. I have much experience in this spiritual phenomenon. I travel inter-dimensionally, intra-dimensionally, and I astral project. This started several years ago. My soul leaves my body through my crown chakra and enters different realms of light, usually through some sort of “doorway.”

My spiritual guides want me to write a book on it called, The Inter-dimensional Traveler. They tell me this spiritual gift is quite rare indeed.

My Pituitary and Pineal glands actually interact with one-another; I can feel it. It’s almost like a pulse or heartbeat between the two.

Upon “re-entry” my breathing and heart beat change as well. It’s quite a beautiful experience, because I can even visit what people refer to as “Heaven.” I wonderful gift that yields many blessings.

Thanks again for the insightful article.


Joshua Tilghman January 9, 2016 at 5:03 pm

Thanks for sharing your journey, Diane. I have had some profound moments during meditation, but solely in the confines of my own body.


seetha February 26, 2016 at 3:14 am

Thank u very much for all the information spreading by u.You Expereinced what about God..


Joshua Tilghman February 27, 2016 at 3:31 pm


You’re very welcome.


Anthony March 6, 2016 at 12:25 pm

Interesting article. If Jacob’s wrestling with God is to be seen as a metaphor instead of a real physical event, would you care to elaborate further the significance of his hip being dislocated and why he walked with a limp afterwards?


Joshua Tilghman March 6, 2016 at 4:05 pm


Sure. It was the hollow of Jacob’s thigh which was touched by the Angel. It’s meaning is two-fold. The thigh is symbolic of the power to advance spiritually. In Jacob’s case, he walked with a limp which is symbolic in the sense that Jacob no longer leaned on his own strength and the ego, but on God. Jacob was a natural man only for a period of time, until he became Israel through this encounter as well.

Thanks for commenting.


Seetha March 12, 2016 at 8:54 am

I have seen in my meditative sleep some divine experiences after praying to lord sai baba. Like a Devine soul sitting in lotus flower and chanting “Hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare”..

Do i need to take birth again ?
Please explain…


Joshua Tilghman March 12, 2016 at 1:13 pm


From what I have gathered through research, one has to realize the higher self before one can choose to be reincarnated or not. Seeing certain visions is not the same.


Seetha March 12, 2016 at 10:52 pm

Thank you Josh,for your reply.


seetha March 25, 2016 at 5:26 am

What is the significance of pig in scriptures? Any negative energy or any thing else? Please explain..Because am
suffering a lot when I sense like that.
please give some spirtual remedies also to get rid of it..
Even though am sensing some positive Devine experiences ,again am going to some negativity ..
Please explain as you are genuinely a spiritual researcher and adviser too..


Paul June 2, 2016 at 6:20 am

Excellent article. I’ve been a student of the Bible for nearly 30 years, and just recently learned about the pineal (peniel) gland and it’s amazing functions.


Joshua Tilghman July 2, 2016 at 12:55 pm

Thank you, Paul.


Michelle June 19, 2016 at 8:07 am

Dear Joshua, I have something to share with you but I wish it to be private. You will understand why at some point. I have had your article saved for weeks…today I finally read both. While it all sounds so plausible, nothing about my spiritual journey has been. In fact, everything I will tell you may seem inconceivable, and I assure you it did even to me for years until I began to dig deeper. It is no accident that I was lead to you. Warmly, Michelle


Joshua Tilghman July 2, 2016 at 12:46 pm

Sorry Michelle that it took me so long to reply. Feel free to contact me anytime through the contact page.


Christina June 30, 2016 at 9:49 am

I did some further research and wanted to come back and delete this original comment I made but it seems I can not. Please remove my question from your comments section if you would be so kind as I have no desire to discuss this any further. Thank you and be blessed.


Joshua Tilghman July 2, 2016 at 12:42 pm


Sorry it took me so long to get back to this. Done as you asked.


Kia December 22, 2016 at 7:37 am


I’m wondering if this is the reason why Christ never married? Was it because his frequency was one that was so high that it he couldn’t be matched?

I know someone that had that told to them and it makes me wonder about relationships and frequency or vibration as it relates to Christ


Joshua Tilghman March 1, 2017 at 9:38 pm


This bigger question is…Was Christ a historical figure? In which case was our traditional understanding of marriage ever really meant?


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